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05-05-2024, 01:42 PM
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#451
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The Herculoids
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 477
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This forum is getting heated
90% is impossible unless you spend way more than these production pieces for an artist to do you a one of a kind piece
Expecting that sort of of accuracy isn’t going to happen even Madame Tussaud’s can’t get that kind of accuracy and they are life size you may think it’s 90% but most cases it’s not and that’s ok
It shouldn’t matter it’s all about making you happy and if collecting isn’t making you happy and your always looking for faults and perfection you’ll never be satisfied or happy with anything
Some actors/actresses are easier to do some are really hard
Please enjoy this hobby and if you don’t like a statue don’t buy and please don’t try to put off collectors who really love the statue but don’t because of horrible comments made in these forums
I will never buy anything I don’t love only collect what you love and please be nice to one another
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05-05-2024, 01:55 PM
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#452
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The Avengers
Join Date: Jul 2023
Posts: 687
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gollum
This forum is getting heated
90% is impossible unless you spend way more than these production pieces for an artist to do you a one of a kind piece
Expecting that sort of of accuracy isn?t going to happen even Madame Tussaud?s can?t get that kind of accuracy and they are life size you may think it?s 90% but most cases it?s not and that?s ok
It shouldn?t matter it?s all about making you happy and if collecting isn?t making you happy and your always looking for faults and perfection you?ll never be satisfied or happy with anything
Some actors/actresses are easier to do some are really hard
Please enjoy this hobby and if you don?t like a statue don?t buy and please don?t try to put off collectors who really love the statue but don?t because of horrible comments made in these forums
I will never buy anything I don?t love only collect what you love and please be nice to one another
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Another good post.
I agree, but i believe that the hobby is now in this deep s..t (other hobbies have also problems, but this one is in a grave condition) due to sugarcoating.
Saying to collectors "ok, pay 2k or 3.5k for double pack and if the likeness is not good, well, accept it. Or else you are whiners or losers" is crazy.
How Infinity Studios got a >90% likeness in their Mera and Catwoman LSBs and at <3999d and JND cannot achieve it? And mind you, if Infinity followed JND's pricing, it should sell its LSBs at 6k.
Guys, this is not a Reeves PFF costing 595 bucks and having 40% likeness. This costs MULTIPLE times more.
But the most outrageous thing is JND pushers trying to convince us that JND achieves likeness.
For an example, that Harley 1/3 has a 40% likeness (something i would expect from Sideshow) @ 2k!!!
And i don't want to hear apologists saying
"i showed this JND to my cousin who doesn't collect and he immediately recognized Reeves or Margot".
Well, even if you showed Sideshow's Reeves PFF to an outsider, he could recognize the actor.
If you accept SUBPAR likeness or quality at 2k or 3k, then companies see this and think
"They are casuals (or even idi..s). We can sell them anything at any insane price".
NO, my friends. This must stop now. In order to ask for insane prices, you MUST deliver excellent product.
Or else accept the critique and not "cry" or go on social media saying that whoever complains is a "whiner" or a "loser".
I haven't seen a co...er company than JND (or have i? lol)
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05-05-2024, 02:39 PM
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#453
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A.I.M.
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Germany
Posts: 4,365
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Originally Posted by Forps is back
Well, well, well.
One of JND's first fanboys. Sometimes he tries to play it differently but he can't fool us.
This argument (do not write if you don't like it) is the same argument that other guys used in the past. And it didn't end well for humanity.
ALL collectors have the RIGHT to express their opinion. JND pushers nowadays (XM's pushers back in the days) must accept it.Or you want to live in an echo chamber?
This behaviour (banning of different opinions, belittling collectors who don't like JND's products or even JND's ----..ness) is what brought this hobby to its dire condition today.
This is not a JND group to only allow 1 opinion. This is an OPEN forum.
Accept different opinions, stop fangirling and pushing JND's agenda and LET OTHER PEOPLE express their opinion. Democracy lesson delivered
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You're not expressing an opinion, you're on a crusade - and anyone who disagrees is labled a fanboy - as if that's something to be ashamed of - here's the thing, as long as I'm spending my money I don't care or want your opinion on my choices, I'm sure that's the same for everyone else.
I have no issue with your dislike of JND or any other company, I just don't need it shoved down my throat....and as for your condescension regarding what is or isn't "art" - to call it laughable is really giving that drivel more credit than it's worth.
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05-05-2024, 02:53 PM
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#454
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A.I.M.
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Germany
Posts: 4,365
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Forps is back
Another good post.
I agree, but i believe that the hobby is now in this deep s..t (other hobbies have also problems, but this one is in a grave condition) due to sugarcoating.
Saying to collectors "ok, pay 2k or 3.5k for double pack and if the likeness is not good, well, accept it. Or else you are whiners or losers" is crazy.
How Infinity Studios got a >90% likeness in their Mera and Catwoman LSBs and at <3999d and JND cannot achieve it? And mind you, if Infinity followed JND's pricing, it should sell its LSBs at 6k.
Guys, this is not a Reeves PFF costing 595 bucks and having 40% likeness. This costs MULTIPLE times more.
But the most outrageous thing is JND pushers trying to convince us that JND achieves likeness.
For an example, that Harley 1/3 has a 40% likeness (something i would expect from Sideshow) @ 2k!!!
And i don't want to hear apologists saying
"i showed this JND to my cousin who doesn't collect and he immediately recognized Reeves or Margot".
Well, even if you showed Sideshow's Reeves PFF to an outsider, he could recognize the actor.
If you accept SUBPAR likeness or quality at 2k or 3k, then companies see this and think
"They are casuals (or even idi..s). We can sell them anything at any insane price".
NO, my friends. This must stop now. In order to ask for insane prices, you MUST deliver excellent product.
Or else accept the critique and not "cry" or go on social media saying that whoever complains is a "whiner" or a "loser".
I haven't seen a co...er company than JND (or have i? lol)
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Who are these mysterious JND pushers, you keep droning on about? There's literally NO ONE telling you to like or buy their statues you madman. You come into the thread pushing your anti JND rubbish, and anyone who disagrees is labelled a fanboy and a "JND pusher".....it's beyond ironic.
Do you know what a "whiner" is? It's literally YOU. Why do you care if someone wants to spend money on this statue - what the f@*k does it have to do with you?.....why can't someone enjoy the forum without lunatics like you brow beating them about their choice.
I own the JND Harley - I think it looks exactly like M.Robbie - you repeating again and again that it's 40% doesn't change my view - I have no issue if you think so, but do I need to read that opinion more than once? - rhetorical question, the answer is "no"! If you hate it so much, sell it to someone who can appreciate it.
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05-05-2024, 07:52 PM
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#455
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A day without sunshine is like... night.
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 233
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I think this is an outstanding piece of work. This dual set is my first JND purchase. Nothing else has come close to this as an overall finished piece honoring Chris Reeve's portrayal of the character.
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05-05-2024, 08:41 PM
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#456
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Teen Titans
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Indenial
Posts: 3,772
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cking
I think this is an outstanding piece of work. This dual set is my first JND purchase. Nothing else has come close to this as an overall finished piece honoring Chris Reeve's portrayal of the character.
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I think it's a "generally" very good/great likeness of Reeve.
The only thing that bugs me is the chin/jaw now (and to a lesser extent the length/width of the nose).
Does it kill the likeness? No. It just fails to make it as strong as it could/should be. And it becomes more apparent in the more expensive, duo version where you can directly compare it to the same area on the Clark sculpt, which is on point and part of why that portrait is universally praised.
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05-06-2024, 05:16 AM
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#457
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Shazam
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 7,615
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Hopefully this forum calms down in a week or two. I’m totally avoiding the Sideshow threads. The last time this specific epidemic occurred it lasted a couple of weeks maybe, and then became a distant memory.
People just need to learn. No matter how aggravating. DO. NOT. ENGAGE.
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05-06-2024, 05:17 AM
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#458
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Shazam
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 7,615
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I might just flip a coin to decide whether I’ll get this or not.
I’m not all that pleased with the head sculpt either. But….. no idea.
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05-06-2024, 05:27 AM
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#459
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Alpha Flight
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 4,513
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenixblazes
I might just flip a coin to decide whether I?ll get this or not.
I?m not all that pleased with the head sculpt either. But?.. no idea.
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I don't love it either, but it isn't terrible. Even if it is the best Reeve available, that does not forgive the shortcomings. I will probably wait and see if they have a sale on him later on and decide then.
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05-06-2024, 08:10 AM
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#460
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The Avengers
Join Date: Jul 2023
Posts: 687
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 67L88Stingray
I don't love it either, but it isn't terrible. Even if it is the best Reeve available, that does not forgive the shortcomings. I will probably wait and see if they have a sale on him later on and decide then.
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I agree, 67L88Stingray.
Truth hurts, 67L88Stingray. Collectors do not want to accept it. Even companies don't.
The likeness is simply NOT there. Why sugarcoat it? It is ~ 73% but for the amount of money JND asks, it should be 90%. You ask for insane prices, you brag that you are the best, then you should also DELIVER.
Frankly speaking, one of the reasons this hobby got destroyed with the crazy prices, is collectors accepting SUB-PAR quality for the money they are paying and companies seeing that and taking advantage.
You ask for insane prices = no excuses = you must deliver
Nevertheless, i am not going to comment on specific threads regarding products of other companies (at least Sideshow accepts criticism). I am mainly going to comment on my 2 general threads or the general Prime1 thread.
No need to argue with JND's online army. They behave exactly like the old XM's online army behaved. JND for them = religion. No criticism accepted.
So i am going to mainly comment on general threads (maybe a bit on ECC also).
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